Emerald Isle, N.C

Jan. 29, 2021

TO THE EDITOR:

How many times have you heard President Biden state that he will “follow the science” in regards to the Covid-19 pandemic? Every time I hear the phrase “follow the science,” my mind goes into a sort of dream state.

On January 21, 2020, I think I heard Dr. Fauci state regarding Covid-19 that “this is not a major threat to the people of the US and this is not something that the citizens of the US right now should be worried about.”

On January 24, 2020, in a briefing on Capitol Hill, Dr. Fauci said that he and CDC director Robert Redfield told senators that imposing travel restrictions was “not a good idea at this time” and “it would create a lot of disruption economically and otherwise, and it wouldn’t necessarily have a positive effect.”

On January 26, 2020, Dr. Fauci told us that “the American people should not be worried or frightened by this (Covid-19). It’s a very, very low risk to the US…….”

By the way, on January 31, 2020, President Trump restricted travel from China to the US.

In early March 2020 on 60 Minutes, Dr. Fauci stated that “face masks were not necessary for the general population” and that “right now, in the US people should not be walking around with masks.” Ironically, Dr. Fauci is currently telling us that wearing a “double mask” is a good idea.

I’m confused, just whose science should we actually be following? And, is not bad advice, regardless whether it’s scientific or not, still just bad advice?

STEPHEN BACH

(39) comments

Always A Teacher

Stating quotes, from Dr. Fauci at the beginning of the pandemic in January, 2020 when no one knew much about the virus, are worthless and proves nothing. A lot more is now known about the virus and its effects. There are vaccines and new variants are now coming into play. We are in a continuum of viral knowledge. Plus, Fauci was under the gun from trump who downplayed it. Let us not forget the bleach episode either. Looking at quotes from 2021 are much more effective compared to January, 2020. However, people still can not wear masks correctly - below the chin, below the nose, or not at all. It's Darwin's game - survival of the fittest.

noitall

Surgical mask may/or may not work. That is all we little people know. N95 spec mask was recommended by CNC until a few weeks ago. Masks are too porous. Why use a chain-link fence to stop mosquito s carrying the malaria virus.At this point we have access to no effective mask. But sunlight includes ultra violet radiation that kills germs and viris in seconds. It is old technology - tanning beds for one use. Our Morehead City hospital recently began using a UV robot to sanitize. Carolina Panthers use it. I wear a small battery powered UV devise around my neck. I have a UV lamp positioned over my HVAC outlet in my home. It sanitizes but Health officials are ignorant of UV existence. Install UV in school building HVAC and move on. We get only junk science filtered by politics from CDC

reelalist

Stating quotes, from President Trump at the beginning of the pandemic in January, 2020 when no one knew much about the virus, are worthless and proves nothing. A lot more is now known about the virus and its effects........

DeadBolt

There cannot be anything 'very' specific , or scientific about this sham, it's only been here for a year, allegedly. (think real hard) [yawn]

JohnnyR

Science is the best method we have for obtaining facts, where facts lead to truth. The way science works...hypothesis are made, testing is done, and the evidence of the testing is part of the scientific theory. A scientific theory and you having a theory about something, (such as I have a theory the American Thinker is made up stuff just to irritate old people) are two completely different things.

So all the statements made by Mr. Bach were from a year ago before the evidence was examined and tested. With science, being incorrect can be just as important as being correct, this is called scientific falsification. If your hypothesis turns out incorrect, then you learn something to help you lead to what is true.

So making a bunch of statements from a year ago is not only misleading, it shows ignorance when you ignore was was actually learned over the past year.

noitall

Scientific Method is a rigid set of protocols or rules that takes time - time we don't have. We were forced to make decisions with incomplete information - and so we did. But that does not mean all this is set in concrete - not yet.

drewski

Many people who called covid a scam did not live to regret their foolishment.

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DeadBolt

And, the rest of the NATURAL population, meaning over 99% will be just fine, and hopefully use COMMON SENSE , not some garbage espoused in a public forum. (and a lot of panderer's ) [wink]

JohnnyR

I have family members that didn't make that 99% cut DeadBolt. .....

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sndcls

Do you also still believe that the sun revolves around the earth since science used to purport that? This is such a bad faith argument, if you can even call it that.

DeadBolt

Apparently 'science today ' has no meaning, simply put, there is no EVIDENCE that this CHINA VIRUS is any worse then a flu season, heck, mostly all the deaths were classed as 'with', not' from'. Now, when you folks get the priority straight, as in , LETS GO AFTER CHINA FOR THESE WAR CRIMES, then we'll all have a meaning! SUE CHINA! Lets roll. [thumbup]

drewski

Again the value of education cannot be overstated.

mpjeep

You are kinda correct, dead.....I guess Science hasn’t told anyone in the governmental medical community that flu hospitalizations and deaths are down significantly in 2020 compared to the last 10 years.

drewski

Are we really still debating masks? I havent looked to confirm flu is down this yr, the fact that smRt folks are wearing masks washing hands and staying home suggests that colds and flu likely are down.

You have to wonder if masks are so ineffective why do Dr's wear them during procedures? Silly dr's they need to follow protocols suggested by commentators in the local paper. PASTUER PTOOEY!

mpjeep

Science shows that mask wearing is nowhere near effective in blocking an aerosol of microscopic viral particles.

First we were told, by Fauci and the CDC, not to wear a mask, now they are saying wear 2, maybe 3 masks.

With the vaccine being administered fairly quickly, and herd immunity getting closer, why will we need masks?

We’ve already been told to continue wearing masks even after everyone in the country has been vaccinated. What? Does this mean the vaccines won’t work? If they work, why wear a mask, socially distance and continue with lockdowns?

The Chinese, as part of their culture, have been wearing masks for years. Did it help them avoid the virus? I think not.

DeadBolt

North Carolina General Statutes 14-12.8. Wearing of masks, hoods, etc., on public property

Current as of: 2019 | Check for updates | Other versions

No person or persons shall in this State, while wearing any mask, hood or device whereby the person, face or voice is disguised so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter, or appear upon or within the public property of any municipality or county of the State, or of the State of North Carolina. (1953, c. 1193, s. 7.)

Terms Used In North Carolina General Statutes 14-12.8

property: shall include all property, both real and personal. See North Carolina General Statutes 12-3

state: when applied to the different parts of the United States, shall be construed to extend to and include the District of Columbia and the several territories, so called; and the words "United States" shall be construed to include the said district and territories and all dependencies. See North Carolina General Statutes 12-3

mpjeep

I will get my second Covid shot on Monday the 8th. And as of Tuesday the 9th, I will no longer wear a mask. No Debate about it.

drewski

My understanding is 1st shot gives 65% protection, second shot offers 95% protection, neither shot is instantaneous, it takes time for the body to produce an antibody response. Consulting a dr before going unmasked seems a wise precaution. As does understanding that 95% is not 100%

mpjeep

I did consult my doctor before getting the vaccine and she advised me to hold off on getting the shot. I got it anyway. Doctors aren't always correct.

Peacenik

It is ignorant to base strategy on a year old plan, that Trump denied was important. Now he's gone, we are still dying and a new strategy is in place. When you don't learn from your mistakes, you pay, over and over again, 500,000 times.

Always A Teacher

Even if you receive two immunizations, which are up to 95% effective against moderate to severe symptoms, in NO WAY does it provide 100% immunity. It does NOT mean you will not get COVID. It means the symptoms, hopefully, will be ameliorated. I get a flu shot every year. That does NOT mean I can not get the flu. It just means my symptoms will, again hopefully, be less severe.

Everyone should still wear a mask to protect those NOT yet immunized. It is just plain selfish and self-centered NOT to wear a mask if YOU are lucky enough to have received two shots. Think about those around you, family and strangers. CARE!

DeadBolt

I don't understand, why in the name of Milton Friedman did we not think of this back in the 50's? We could have prevented who knows how many deaths since then! Makes total sense to me! Let 99% of folks pay for the 1% that may or may not have the sniffles. Wow, the KUNG FLU, COMING TO ME AND COMING TO YOU! [wink]

mpjeep

I’ll take the 95% effective rate. Flu vaccine is only about 50% effective and I don’t wear a mask for that.

Until wearing a mask is a law, I’ll take my chances as a mandate. Fortunately my choice.

For those that think a new strategy is in place, since Trump is gone, let’s see it. Biden has already admitted he doesn’t have a plan that’s better than the plan we are on.

mpjeep

I’ve been vaccinated and do not have Covid, therefore I can’t spread Covid.

Psychology has been playing a big role in folk’s minds to the adherence of mask mandates. Kinda like Marine Corp Boot Camp and after 90 days the young folks come away brainwashed.

Ever look closely at your mask while it is on your face and see the small gaps? This allows virus particles to seep through.

drewski

That is incorrect as a simple google search will show.

DeadBolt

Um, jeep, there is not a soft mask out there that can stop virus particles, their micro, like throwing sand at a chain link fence. (most of the sand goes through the fence) <----------- This HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. These ridiculous masks will in fact DAMAGE your physical well being if your working at any rate higher then basically sitting still, Younger and very healthy people can sustain the use of the filter of sorts, but it reduces your O2 flow, and it also allows carbon dioxide to be re breathed by you , and sped up at a cycle that is very unhealthy, and works the heart, lungs, etc, etc. (typically humans do not save their own exhaled breath and re-breath it. ) But, anyways, hope ya stay safe. [wink]

JohnnyR

Here's a fun idea, everybody share your education level and the amount of time you've spent scientifically researching the corona virus outside of reading websites.

I'll go first.... Bachelor of Science and zero hours of any kind of actual scientific research.

drewski

9th grade education, ged in service, 0 hrs doing actual covid research.

mpjeep

B.S. and MBA....zero hours doing scientific research.

JusticeForAll

The words of Carl Sagan that illuminate so discernibly in today's world...

“In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.”

DeadBolt

Um, yea, you really need no schooling to understand that the very people your taking advice from ie: Government, have extorted you all in the same swoop. Your federal, your state, and your local so called 'leaders' have really bent you over, so, IMO, no its a shakedown, and their not done yet, but, hey, you are free to listen to the total nonsense on their behalf. your dime. [wink]

mpjeep

Biden has said over 100 times in 2020 plus 2021 about his administration is following the Science on opening schools. Is Biden now a Scientist?

Actions speak louder than words and lots of schools are still closed. Of course, he does have close ties to the teacher’s unions.

Somebody needs to open an investigation to see if Biden has any ties to American.

drewski

sigh, the president does not open or close schools. Those decisions are on the state governor's. PPL who are unhappy should move to a state such as fl, where trump clone desantis knows all.

JohnnyR

"you really need no schooling" really says a lot.

JohnnyR

Biden is not a scientist, don't know of any president that was. But I really hope every president would listen to the experts for advice.

My definition of an expert is someone that has studied the field in question with valid education credentials in that field. A conservative blogger with no valid knowledge other than a "gut feeling" does not qualify.

JusticeForAll

Actually, Thomas Jefferson was a scientist. The majority of our Presidents were pro-science. Disgraced insurrectionist former President Trump is someone who is not educated about science and seems incapable of understanding it based on his actions before, during, and post his time in office.

DeadBolt

Science leads back to CHINA folks. (even the ones with EXTENDED TDS!) hahahahahaha[whistling]

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