Discrimination and equity are the new buzzwords for politicians and the media today, but as N.C. Rep. Pat McElraft, has exposed in a bill she is championing, these concerns, phrases and the associated narrative apply only to those of us lucky enough to be born. They do not apply to the unborn.

Rep. McElraft, (R), representing the 13th house district of Carteret and Jones counties, along with Representatives John Bradford, Kristin Baker and Dean Arp, introduced H.B. 453 Wednesday. The bill entitled “An Act to Protect Against the Discrimination of Human Life,” seeks to ban “eugenic abortions” that are performed because of dissatisfaction with either race, gender or concerns about the diagnosis of Down Syndrome of the fetus.

The bill references the 1964 Voting Rights Act as its basic foundation noting, “Human dignity includes the inherent right not to suffer discrimination on the basis of eight innate characteristics, such as a human being's race, sex, or genetic characteristics, including any genetic abnormalities.”

In presenting the bill to the General Assembly, Rep. McElraft expressed concern that parents of children who are diagnosed with Down Syndrome while in the womb might choose abortion out of convenience and the fear of discrimination for the child. She noted, “It’s time to face the issue head-on and ensure that every North Carolinian is protected from discrimination before and after birth.”

As expected, the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (NARAL), which supports the country’s largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, immediately challenged the basis of the legislation. Tara Romano told a Raleigh News & Observer reporter that “…these types of arbitrary bans are part of a larger campaign to stigmatize abortion care, and make it more difficult for people to access the care they need.”

Ms. Romano’s remarks seem incongruous if not outright hypocritical considering she is not concerned with providing care for the unborn. This begs the question, who should be the recipient of this care? And, why not provide that care to the unborn?

It is not coincidental that Rep. McElraft and the other co-sponsors chose this week to release the bill since, in the Christian calendar, this is Holy Week leading up to the Passion or crucifixion of Jesus Christ, culminating with His resurrection on Easter Sunday. The timing provides a stark contrast of the focus on new life and re-birth as envisioned in Christianity on this holiest of celebrations and the fact that the country facilitates on average, 900,000 abortions annually.

Rep. McElraft not only challenges the basic tenets of the pro-abortion lobby which is more focused on convenience than life, she also challenges Christians to answer how they should respond to a culture that puts such a low value on new life.

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David Collins

Oh come on , really who cares . Been arguing this non-issue for decades . Far more immediate issues on the plate . Gracious plenty of unwanted , unneeded folks wandering about as it is . Yeah , totally simplistic but ultimately true . Guilty !

Monica

Me Betty sue forgot about the 424,000 foster care children no one cares about.

DeadBolt

As did your lot. (first time its mentioned here) No riots about them, hmmmmm....

drewski

If you feel abortion is wrong don't get one. It is not that complicated. meanwhile how many kids age out of foster care each yr? how many kids languish in the states orphanages? Perhaps ppl who feel so strongly about other's childrens welfare should actually do something like foster or adopt? On this easter sunday perhaps reflect on opening your home to a child who needs one?

DeadBolt

We actually have done so well with this in the private sector, they recommend Adopting out of the country for Americans, here, read about it. https://www.americanadoptions.com/adoption/do-orphanages-still-exist

Still, does not justify MURDER OF BABIES.

DeadBolt

I personally just will never endorse murdering babies, EVER. (the pre-fixes, and pronouns you place before or after the act of the MURDER, are irrelevant) This barbaric crime simply will not wash off. (ps... the actual numbers are higher then the article, as if it matters)

Monica

Then please by all means contact the governor and volunteer to be at the bedside of every woman in labor, pay her medical bills, and assure every woman you will adopt and care for their child and provide them emotionally and financially everything they will ever need.

DeadBolt

Given the responses , well, i doubt most of the folks would take care of their own parents. Free passes all around!

noitall

Dear Monica - This only about who pays right? Who covers the cost? Repeats should be limited to one. free. My wife of 63 years and I are both adopted.

Monica

Forgot to add, Ms Betty Sue, this bill has been enacted in Pa for a decade or longer. Not just DS it’s also major physical difformaties. My childhood friend was informed her child in the womb would have no legs and possibly nothing from the waste down and was given the choice to terminate or not.

She chose not to. But you definitely need to read the bill and also face the fact that your opinion piece makes it sound like our Jesus is doom and gloom, worship or perish in the lake of fire! And I’m sorry, he is not. You push away those needing him with outlandish, hellfire opinions.

Stella May

Monica, have you ever hear the Commandment, Thou Shalt Not Kill? Yes, actually, there is a lake of fire reserved for baby murderers.

And, no, it is not DeadBolt's responsibility to care for and support every unwanted child - what an absurd comment.

We live in a sad world when a mother can take to life of her own child and not spend every single second of the rest of her life in prison. But her prison to come in the afterlife will be worse than any punishment she could receive on earth.

mpjeep

The killing of an innocent human being is wrong; therefore, abortion is murder.

A human individual is created with a unique genetic identity that remains unchanged throughout his or her life (follow the science). Life does begin at conception,

The Bible does not draw a distinction between fetuses and babies. (Jeremiah 1:5 and Exodus 20:13)

Physical limitations don’t make those with disabilities less than humans. The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 provides civil rights protections to people born with disabilities. Selective abortion based on genetic abnormalities is discrimination.

If women become pregnant, they should accept the responsibility that comes with producing a child not to have deadbolt care for and support unwanted children, as Monica absurdly states.

drewski

Sigh, follow the science indeed. Each yr there are about 5k bone marrow transplants in the US. The recipients then reflect the DNA of the donor if tested. So genetic identity is not forever as you assume. What I find even more interesting is the overlap between the pro life crowd and the sex ed should be taught at home not school crowd. Those folks become grandparents at 32 and then blame society, music lyrics, or anyone but that person in the mirror. Christians always seem to forget " judge not lest ye be judged" how about worry about your own body and let others do the same?

noitall

Killing anyone is wrong!

DeadBolt

Based on another article i read in here, its easier to kill your own baby , then to actually fish for a flounder, is this correct? Amazes me, the same people who advocate for saving animals........ go figure.....[yawn]

David Collins

Come on here . This is about a woman and her God. Let it lie there . Make your own choice and be silent about it . Really , no one cares .

mpjeep

Women who have used abortions as birth control better quickly put their trust in Jesus and accept him as their Savior and ask for forgiveness to be saved from condemnation for their sins.

If you’ve ever watched an actual abortion (Google), you will see a fetus struggling as it is being vacuumed from the uterus and then technicians putting the body parts back together to make sure nothing was left in the uterus. Disgusting is an understatement.

Men and women alike need to live with the consequences of their actions. If you consent to sex then you accept the risk of getting pregnant. That should not give you an excuse to kill the child because you wanted to have fun.

Stella May

David Collins, here is a challenge for you. Go to this site: https://www.priestsforlife.org/images/abortion-images-galleries.aspx

Before you make such a callous comment again (no one cares), have a look at what you are making this comment about.

mpjeep

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Sandman

Maybe if those who don’t want a child should invest in birth control or other means of contraception. Don’t wait until you find out you are pregnant to decide that you don’t want it. It’s a lot cheaper and is covered by most medical insurance and available at the health departments. FETUS LIVES MATTER TOO!

DeadBolt

Id say, leave everyone but the child out of the picture for a second. (even the mother as people are forgetting the father as well). NOW..... DEFEND YOUR POSITION ON KILLING THE CHILD. (i'll simply argue the other side, if necessary, with no religion, or bias at all) I will not bring up politics, or religion . What is the argument for the DEATH OF A BABY, who has caused no harm to anyone at all, and had no knowledge of these consequences? Shoot, i'm all ears. [whistling]

drewski

Calling a group of cells " child or baby" likely suits to frame an emotional argument. Using that logic [ ahem] you can point to a pile of sand and say beachfront condo. The legal cutoff for abortion is 26 weeks, the point at which the fetus has a chance to survive outside the mother. Is there any instance abortion is ok? Rape, incest? Health of the mother?

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Stella May

Thank you for mentioning the father. So many others are ignored in the decision to kill a baby. First and Foremost, God (Genisis 1:27, And God created man to His own image: to the image of God He created him: male and female He created them.). The Baby - we are talking about the baby's life here, not the mother's, a person has a Right to their own Life. The Father, the often-forgotten other parent, who may want to raise his own child (which would greatly assist DeadBolt who was earlier appointed guardianship of millions of unwanted children). And the Many Others who would have been the murdered one's offspring, and their descendants. Decisions have consequences.

mpjeep

The typical response, but when you say abortion is okay, you say that human lives are disposable and that you would throw away anyone that is a problem for you. sand

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Stella May

Back to Biology class for you Drewski. You are showing your ignorance. And, no, there is no instance when murdering a child is OK. By the way, a 26 week old baby cannot survive on its own, nor can a 26 month old baby for that matter. Shall we legalize the murder of all who cannot care for themselves?

drewski

The scary part is the Bible quotes who say all life is precious, there is never any reason for an abortion those folks usually favor capitol punishment. Meanwhile rather then proclaim others ignorance perhaps some research might be In order..

Most babies (80 percent) who reach 26 weeks gestation do survive, while those born at 28 weeks have a 94 percent survival rate. And most babies born after 27 weeks survive with no neurological problems.

Big Fat Drunk Republican

Haven’t you guys been paying attention? Attention I say!

It’s like this, the Demoncrats, I mean Democrats want people to get abortions. Did you what I said? They not only support the right to chose, Democrats, woman and anybody who supports abortion wants one, even the men that support it.

I get to listening to my favorite right wing radio stations, Fox and Friends and and hear it everyday.

They paint a picture that’s so easy to see. Makes me feel like Democrats are signing people up for abortions. I mean, they want one, didn’t you know, Sean Hannity told me so.

I mean, I mean get pregnant on purpose, just to get an abortion. Yep.

You hadn’t gotta scare this evangelical to the polls, it’s as obvious as right wing media makes it seem, those Democrats are evil, and they wanna let’s poor people cross the border.

They want to raise minimum wage

They want to conserve the environment

They want to find cleaner ways to produce energy

They want to make it easier to vote and harder to get guns.

They want there to be standards in education in regards to history, science and math

They want Every American to have access to healthcare

I mean, I mean them demoncrats need to stop trying to ruin everything and kill all the babies.

They want to make it harder to purchase guns

noitall

You forgot POWER. They want POWER. But I can be empathetic - one free abortion and then you are on your own.

DeadBolt

Dear Drew..... It would seem , that you and i dis-agree on what to call actual 'LIFE' after conception. (this is where we need to stop, and consider everything in our argument, before we consider 'down the road killing', would you agree?) Here is our contention, so, we're going to freeze any further killings , beyond this point , until we have a grasp on EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH, OK? Ok, so , here we are , with either a lump of cells, or a human life, or both, gosh , this is so confusing, i'm actually tired!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyhow, my position is that 'I WOULD NOT KILL A CLUMP OF CELLS OR A HUMAN LIFE , (which seems to be disputed by every form of creature on the planet, and some non human things which are branded as human adults), so, PLEASE SUM UP YOUR CASE FOR KILLING THIS BABY, WAIT, I MEAN CELL STRUCTURE, OR FETUS, HECK, ITS A HUMAN, CORRECT? Really, an oyster has another oyster, and a clam has the same thing, and two donkey's have a small jack@ss , etc, Why on earth would you want to kill this life? WHAT EXACTLY HAS THIS LIFE DONE TO WARRANT A DEATH SENTENCE, EXACTLY? Shoot, i'm all ears............

DeadBolt

If you leave out the so called 'MISTAKE' of the parent, well, i think you have no claim sir. At this point i would like to know from anyone, much less an infant, who cannot speak for themself, ARE YOU WILLING TO DIE FOR AN ACTION OF YOUR PARENT , OR PARENTS? Right now, as adults, using communication tools, and enjoying life, IS A SO CALLED MISTAKE, BY A COMPLETE STRANGER , because lets face it, as an infant, or cells, or baby, you did not really know anything,much less another human or figure? MY CLAIM..... Destroying the prize, does not mean the bingo game never happened! Your argument is with the Parent sir, not the child, yet you condemn the innocent to DEATH? I really gotta hear this logic, your turn.

David Collins

Yeah , I have seen pictures like that . Not exactly joyful , like a lot of other things these days .

drewski

Perhaps Christians should try to follow the words of christ, spend less time lurking in Roman's and the old testament? What are the words attributed to Jesus? " ye who are without sin cast the first stone" while defending a harlot from the righteous mob.." judge not lest ye be judged.." only once in the gospels was Jesus angry. It was not with an adulterer,nor harlot,nor murderer, it was with the money changers in the temple. That suggests tv preachers and investment bankers are more at risk of " the lake of fire" . Camel through eye of needle ring a bell? Your condemnation of others has not gone unnoticed, and when st Peter plays the u tube video of your life as you wait to enter those pearly gates, what exactly will you say ,as your lack of compassion and harsh condemnation of others sins are played in slow mo? Since all sin is equal in the eyes of God, are you any better then the women you condemn? I think not.

drewski

My final comment...abortion, the hottest of hot button issues. Simply put, and as someone else said. It is not your decision to make. It likely comes with pain grief guilt and lifelong regret. You decide what is right for you and your body. Let others make that decision for themselves. This decision should be between a woman, her dr, and her conscience. " the logic" It is simple really, you worry about you, and no one else.

DeadBolt

From a person to another, HOW IS THE BABY DESERVED OF DEATH? (i have made no mention of religion, or politics) Square this away for me, plz? ps.... you seem to be bringing up protests about other topics, not me.....

mpjeep

To the doctors that perform abortions: You must not play God by deciding who should live and who should die! Don’t you guys take an oath?

mpjeep

Yep, don’t forget, big fat, that abortion fits Biden’s whole "Devout Catholic" tap dance routine.

noitall

Joe has a price to pay. The word from the Holy Sea is no communion for Joe.

Sandman

Since everybody thinks abortion of an unborn child is perfectly ok, let’s also abort those criminals who are still waiting on death row because everyone is crying it’s inhumane, it’s inhumane. They had a choice before they murdered someone, a fetus doesn’t.

mpjeep

“My final comment”, then I'm going to take my ball and go home!

To say a child must die so that others may live as they wish is so disturbing and unconscionable.

An embryo is a complete and whole organism and it should be the duty of our government to protect this life….politics aside.

Abortion disproportionately affects African American babies

In the US by 3.3 times as many black women over white women having abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

Abortion is the leading cause of death in America.

DeadBolt

Drew, the last comment, is based around all the so called self grief you described for 'AN INDIVIDUAL' that has , in YOUR WORDS , made several HUGE MISTAKES, NONE OF WHICH ALIGN WITH 'THEIR' PERSONAL EXPECTATIONS, if i'm correct. OK, here's my point, you mean to tell me that in your opinion, YOU ARE WILLING TO TRANSFER THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY OF HUMAN LIFE , meaning to take another life, mainly THEIR OWN CHILD, and let this person MAKE THE ULTIMATE MISTAKE?????????????????? Well, knowing that its not the baby's fault , which i already knew, it's my inclination to try and step in and STOP this total crackpot mistake maker, and at the least advise them, that CONTINUING TO MAKE BAD MISTAKES, TO THE POINT OF MURDER/DEATH, THE END, ETC, MAY JUST NOT BE THEIR CUP OF TEA?!? ASK much wiser people. This is COMMON SENSE , even to the lost villager. Relieve these people of these TRAGIC MISTAKES, and provide them education, so hopefully they do not make these mistakes again, i would think is a great option, but removing them of the responsibility of even carrying a child, after they choose the behavior, well, looks like the prison running the guards? Sorry, some people just are bad drivers on the road, despite the numbers. RATHER SELFISH , BUT, THE CHILD DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE MURDERED, NOT BY A LONG SHOT.

Stella May

mpjeep, you called it! Biden is no devout Catholic. In fact, a Catholic who helps to procure an abortion is automatically excommunicated and Biden has done much to promote/finance abortion.

drewski, Jesus did not defend the woman's sin; on the contrary, he instructed her to sin no more. AND, since you did not comprehend this statement, I'll say it again: A 26 week old baby cannot survive on its own, nor can a 26 month old baby for that matter. Shall we legalize the murder of all who cannot care for themselves?

mpjeep

[thumbup] Well said, Stella!

Stella May

Thanks mpjeep! You stated the answer, in an above post, to a question I have asked a number of people: What is the number one cause of death in America? Not one person has answered this correctly. It is abortion. I ask anyone who says the are pro-abortion to look at this site, you should know what you are promoting: https://www.priestsforlife.org/images/abortion-images-galleries.aspx

drewski

Well, my previous reply was not printed, hmm perhaps you should reread what I said. I quoted the stats on fetus development in weeks and mortaility/ defect based on same. At no time did I say or imply a newborn will leap up and cook itself a steak for breakfast. I will not respond at all to the the hyperbole of ...murder all...

Now... being as circumspect as possible .. considering the repeated and enormous financial settlements over abuse, perhaps the "devout" should focus as much attention on the already born as they do on the preborn?

Stella May

No thank you, reading your comments the first time is bad enough! Unlike your dumb analogy of sand and a beach house, a human has everything it needs from his/her conception - just needs nourishment and time to grow, which he/she continues to do from conception until around 18 or 20 . Those "devouts" do a whole lot to help the pre-born; in fact, there are even resources listed on that website I've posted which you are not brave enough to look at - but, heck, why let the facts get in the way or your comments?

Jackie Gleason

We give more thought to killing endangered species like frogs and sea turtles than we do human life. But we have come to this acceptance over many years. Our fathers and mothers give their young to day care and morning school care. That is followed but the state giving them breakfast lunch and sometimes dinner with after school care. We farm out parenting to the state. The state wants abortion so we put up with this cycle. It mostly impacts minorities and those who want and need two family incomes because they wish to live above their own means. I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for day care but day in my day it was mom and dad or grandpa and grandma pitching in to help out. Thats because they wanted to bring the children up in a family environment vs. a factory environment. Times have changed and I may be too old to see the benefit. We have front page news today that the contractor for sand replenishment on Emerald Isle killed a Sea turtle but not about the estimated 20 unborn slaughtered yesterday in our state. Bring back responsibility for ones actions and responsibility to raise your own child and we may have a happier world.

mpjeep

As you recommended, I reread what you said and it was "this is my final comment.

In the past 40 plus years, abortions have taken the lives of 55 million Americans. If another country killed 55 million Americans tomorrow, we would not celebrate with a parade, slap bumper stickers on our cars, or vote for a candidate for political office.

We have killed off over 15 percent of the US population with abortions. 55 mil is greater than the population of any state.

Science and The Bible are absolutely clear that life begins at conception. Taking a human life is murder, by definition, which makes abortion a murderous act.

Abortion is not a matter of politics. It’s a matter of life and death, for 55 million and counting.

drewski

https://slate-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/slate.com/human-interest/2017/04/when-does-life-begin-outside-the-christian-right-the-answer-is-over-time.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16178149026334&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fslate.com%2Fhuman-interest%2F2017%2F04%2Fwhen-does-life-begin-outside-the-christian-right-the-answer-is-over-time.html

Again merely making a statement that science and the Bible are absolutely clear..does not make it true, just because you said it. Retainer an interesting article, compares and contrasts various beliefs

Stella May

[thumbup] "this is my final comment" Touché

noitall

Time to consider reverse abortions. And lastly women who must pay for abortions and are alone use birth control.

David Collins

Sigh ! Anybody change your mind yet ? Back in 1970 this same subject was posed in my English class . We batted it around a bit and none of us changed our mind either . Came down to just doing what we all felt right about . Freedom of choice as long as it is not illegal . Morality is in the eye of the beholder . It is 2021 and somehow I have made it this long . Don’t really expect much to change except the days on the calendar , for the rest of us .

DeadBolt

The taking of an INNOCENT LIFE in our country to justify bad judgment is crackpot popycock. If anything the father and mother should be on trial, period. If you are not willing to ADMIT the crime, if any was the parents fault in this case, IMO, you are detached from REALITY. You are certainly void of factual thought. Also, since some are hanging their hat on 'POTENTIAL MEDICAL ISSUES', well, state the case, because, i have not seen one iota of this in your barren thought process. Careful RETIREE'S , the lunatics will be grouping you folks next. (like that deranged idiot in NY, and his lot of lackies).

David Collins

And if the potential father , sperm donor , is listed as unknown ? That is quite common in some segments of our society . About 70% in the last report .

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