It is time to bring a halt to the false argument, that November’s close and contested voting is an indication of a divided country which is a crisis needing to be fixed. Of course the country is divided - why else do we hold elections? And no, this is not a crisis but rather a confirmation that our form of government is working.

Elections by their very nature are an indication of division. They are conducted to bring to conclusion disputes over public choices. At the end of the election, the majority, however significant or small, makes the final decision as to a course of action or chosen representative.

Because of the close nature of so many races in the November election, Democrats, with the aid of liberal metro media outlets, continue to promote the canard that the country is divided and this is somehow a threat to the civic core of our republic.

Every elected leader seeks to be “swept” into office with an overwhelming victory which gives the impression of a national consensus. But that is not the case in this year’s election which resulted in a record setting 70% plus voter turnout.

The reason for this turnout is that the voters were and are engaged in the political issues, something that hasn’t been seen in centuries and a fact that is making the winners uncomfortable because they now face a skeptical and vigilant public. This is good for our democratic republic and will assure its future if the vigilance is sustained.

Rather than complain about the passionate and focused nature of the electorate, those elected, their representatives and the media should be applauding the results. In fact, the current political passion and interest will bode well for future elections, particularly in the off-year cycle and in state and local elections.

We should appreciate that voters are informed and engaged. And yes, divided. The alternative is a rubber stamp election such as seen in China, Russia, Venezuela and other countries with totalitarian regimes.

Sir Winston Churchill, speaking in Great Britain’s House of Commons, noted that, “Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that been tried from time to time….”

This year’s national election is evidence our country is not facing a political crisis but that our democratic republic is vibrant and working.

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David Collins

Absolutely ! The false flag of unity is the danger and flies above most every liberal college in our nation . Free exchange of ideas and opinions are under siege by those that want only one thing , their ideas and policies .

mpjeep

Yep, under siege by liberals for sure.

kenwood

The good editor chooses to ignore reality, willingly sticking his head in the sand to claim that the participation of a record number of voters in the November election represents a "divided" country so as to explain away the anxieties that many loyal Americans are suffering through at his time . The division that currently exists as the good editor knows so well, is the unwillingness of the sitting President and his acolytes to acknowledge the will of the people, attempting to hold on to office in violation of that will, and our very own Constitution. The sitting President supported by his blind supporters sees himself as President-For- Life. Like a Putin, Castro, or leader of one of our Banana Republics. His actions and those who support same, constitute a serious danger to our representative form of government. Some might claim that those actions are bordering on, if not actually traitorous.

quicksand

Thank you Kenwood. News out today from Rudy Guilliani is that if you are a “celebrity/friend of Trump” you are eligible to receive Coronavirus treatment that is not offered to the general public. “Let them eat cake” he was heard mumbling......

dc

Survey says over 50% believe election was stolen? What's this about traitors? You talking Congress people hiring & closely lassociated with Chinese Communists while having the gall to accuse innocent people of doing what they have done & may be currently doing so far as we know. Since they seem to support the CCP how can they be trusted? They seem to promote anything but America.

JusticeForAll

Survey says...50% say the election was not stolen. Guess the question is- which 50% do you believe? Do have a few questions maybe someone can answer- those who witnessed the election fraud- did they report it while it was happening or after the results? So we had a few hundred who signed an affidavit that this happened against hundreds of thousand other workers who did not see any problems... what does that average out to? What is the allowable percentage for mistakes that are inevitable during an election? Did Waldo vote for Trump?- sources say he was in Georgia. Looking forward to the insight.

mpjeep

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noitall

No standing at the Supremes palace?. Gotta have standing or you get sent home. Evidence? We have been drowning in it for six years. Not enough. We need evidence and now standing to go with it New motto LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, BUT ONLY FOR THOSE WITH STANDING.

mpjeep

If Creepy Uncle Joe makes it to the White House, one of his first declared actions is to go after private, “legal” gun owners. Gun owners who play by the rules and exercise their constitutional rights under the Second Amendment.

The left that makes up the base of the Socialist Party and have all the proper buzz words like “assault weapons” and “weapons of war,” yet they won’t give a full and proper definition of these terms because they can’t.

Biden’s proposals include a special tax on weapons of war and high capacity magazines. Also a requirement that said “weapons of war” be registered with the federal government in a national database. Why would they need that?

He also wants to institute a federal mandatory buy-back program. Again, why?

BTW, when I refer to Creepy Joe, I’m including his soon to be replacement Harris, since the majority of these proposals are hers.

As we all know by now, one of the first actions taken by any government wanting to exert more control over its people is to round up all the weapons and disarm the general public. And I don’t want to hear conspiracy theories. As I’ve said before, there is a reason we study history.

Dems have already made it known they want to alter the rights we enjoy under the First Amendment. They want to be able to ban hate speech, again without a definition of what that is. And if the First Amendment falls, the battle is half over in their favor. The Second Amendment is our only firewall.

The following is from joebiden.com and outlines his proposed plan for gun control.

*Hold gun manufacturers accountable for their products.

*Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

*Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

*Reduce stockpiling of weapons.

*End the online sale of firearms and ammunition.

*Incentivize state “extreme risk” laws. also called “red flag” laws.

*Give states incentives to set up gun licensing programs.

*Put America on the path to ensuring that 100% of firearms sold in America are smart guns.

*Ban the importation, manufacture, and sale of high-capacity magazines.

David Collins

Nonsense Ken , he knows he lost and is on the way out . Took a good shot at it but adversity was too great . Hopefully a few serious questions will be answered as he exits . Don’t really care what the answers are , just the truth please . Problem is can we stand to hear the truth ?

David Collins

A few hundred is a sizable number . When they saw bad things happen will be in their deposition , just to whom do you report these things to if you are surrounded by perps ? That is a bit of reality . That is why questions need to be addressed and answered . Mistakes , honest mistakes can be corrected . Intent is another matter . That is the tough nut in the bunch .

JusticeForAll

A few hundred compared to hundreds of thousands? What makes that sizable? There is now evidence emerging that some of what those few hundred saw was not voter fraud. The measures Trump is taking now is what bizarre. There has been NO EVIDENCE that there was intent. What the evidence supports, now, is that Trump and his team are trying to subvert our voting system in an effort to overturn election results to their favor. That is intent, sir.

drewski

If we are to believe the melodramatic pronouncements " creepy joe" will gut the 1&2 admt. The republic will fall into a failed commie state, and all is lost Really ?You folks need to get a grip and have some faith in the republic and the wisdom of the founding fathers IE :checks and balances... i never did hear an answer to my question if the gov and sec of state in Ga. are rino traitors to president trump, or honorable men who did the right thing and followed the law even though it was not what they personally wanted?

The supreme court, now a 6-3 conservative majority, with 3 of them being FAR right, denied the petition in PA. with out dissent or comment. That was the last nail in the" stop the steal" coffin ( although I note, without surprise the fundraising continues) Point being there are people of integrity in all levels and branches of govt, People from both parties. The republic will survive. the courts will not let the bill of rights be shredded, joe biden is not going to take your guns or muzzle your opinions. To keep proclaiming otherwise is to embarrass yourself publicly.

mpjeep

I replied, but was blown out of the water.

dc

..... Stealing votes no matter how many is spitting in the faces of those who fought and died for its sacredness.

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JusticeForAll

Trying to not count votes that are legitimate is even worse.

dc

"Joe Biden, the Manchurian President". By John Leonard. Remember the Chinese economics professor who said the highest echelons of our government & institutions are in their pocket or words to that effect. Remember what JB has said about them being no problem & son saying the big guy gets half. Wonder what We The People will get? JB isn't alone but he's the leader of the pack currently & will be unless something gets in the way. The country may survive in the near term but the long term? Countries first die slowly & then very fast. So, do we want America & freedom first or Communist China first? Many have already voted for which they want & currently the fraudsters & dictatorial communism are winning,

dc

Checks & balances with one party rule? Sure. A 6-3 court? Think again. A 5--4 at best. There are 2 more probably not as liberal as Roberts but can't count on them especially one coming out of DC.

drewski

One party rule? Are you unaware of the makeup of the house and senate? Checks and balances applies to the 3 branches of govt, so even if one party had overwhelming numbers in the legislative branch they are still subject to the checks of the other two.

The idea that coming out of DC, makes a judge suspect is ludicrous, as is calling the chief justice a liberal.

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David Collins

It does not really matter what Biden wants , we saw this with Trump , just a figurehead . What really matters and is of concern , is what lies beneath . Those are the real players , movers and shakers .

drewski

Again, the founding fathers did not want a king, the president has power, but not unchecked. That is as it should be. Trump would veto defense bill, house passed it with veto proof majority. Lets see what the senate does, loyalty to trump, or loyalty to our military?

dc

If there's a D president, D House & Senate stacked SCOTUS that's a check & balance? What's ludicrous & how?

drewski

Ludicrous would be me spending any more time engaged in circular arguments and hypotheticals.

dc

About the only legitimate votes not being counted are Rs or at least ones for this president. Guess libs wouldn't trust Populous Press. Check out the video demonstration of how computer voting can be manipulated.

dc

Pelosi wouldn't go for relief bill until she thought she had a new president. Loyalty to the people or her herself, party, hairdo, freezer, & ice cream?

drewski

May 29, 2019 — Mueller: If we had confidence the President did not commit a crime, we would have said so.

Robert mueller, volunteer viet nam combat vet, lifelong Conservative republican, about donald trump- draft dodger, life long democrat, The only reason trump was not indicted for obstruction is standing DOJ policy to not indict sitting president.

This is what history will remember, not wishful thinking about poor persecuted donald.

I just reread "The Caine Mutiny" trump is Queeg to a "t"

"old orange stain"

dc

There's a reason the media is suddenly reporting on Hunter Biden's corruption". By Andrea Widburg. LOL. Is this still the Russian disinformation Schiff & all the other leftist clowns were talking about? The left is full of them & they're very dangerous. Surely the old man wasn't involved. BO is still in the dirty politics game bigger than ever & even his past cronies are dispensable. Bring on the BO/KH puppet show. It would funny if not so anti-American.

David Collins

Sure is a reason for reporting on Hunter . The tax investigation was accidentally released , with no redactions , by Biden’s own staff . OPPS . Will anything come of all this ? Have my doubts , for the good of the nation and all that muck . Actually The Whole DC Establishment is neck deep in muck . We will see !

dc

CCP is existential threat to it's own people, American people, & people of the world. JB's crime family are on their payroll. Great coverup job by all entities involved.

David Collins

A real life game of Thrones . Do we as a nation have the stomach for it , now that we have been lulled into complacency with the instant gratifications of big tech. running our pitiful lives ? Time will tell and that is running out , like sands in an hourglass . When the reset comes , which way will it flip ?

JusticeForAll

Hopefully, with the Supreme Court decision, Trump will be man enough to accept defeat. But, I doubt it.

mpjeep

“The Supreme Court, in tossing the Texas lawsuit that was joined by seventeen states and 106 US congressman, has decreed that a state can take unconstitutional actions and violate its own election law. Resulting in damaging effects on other states that abide by the law, while the guilty state suffers no consequences. This decision establishes a precedent that says states can violate the US constitution and not be held accountable. This decision will have far-reaching ramifications for the future of our constitutional republic. Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.” Republican Party of Texas Chairman Allen West

JusticeForAll

A grossly inaccurate assessment of the ruling. The Supreme Court did not violate, but upheld the Constitution. West also suggests that Texas leave the Union. Go ahead. All of you Trump fans can move there and build Trump World. Lots of room in Texas. You guys can throw him parades every day. This man has no honor and has compromised the constitution of the United States. He should be tried for treason for lying to his base about election results. There is no EVIDENCE, except de-bunked lies. Trump and his team hold a spell over his zombie followers, who are incapable of accepting the truth. And hearing Trump fans on a daily basis threatening a Civil War... how prophetic... first of all, there is no such thing as a "civil" war by the very definition of civil. Why not try a civil conversation? This obviously something Trumps fans are incapable of having.

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mpjeep

The latest jobs report shows that despite Covid, Trump’s policies of lower taxes and reducing regulations continue to work. Raising taxes and adding regulations, as Biden plans to do, will have the opposite effect. Just study history if you don’t believe me.

Some businesses are struggling, or have closed, thanks to arbitrary orders from politicians. Employers adding new jobs were down over 50% in November. Unemployment rate was about 8%. And as of November, 4 million more Americans have a job than in July.

Pretty amazing recovery, I’d say.

50% of job losses by Black Americans have been recovered. Makes me wonder why some many blacks vote democrat. The construction industry has recovered 74 %.

These records should have ensured Trump’s reelection. But, efforts by Democrats and the Media refused to report on these and other successes. This is beyond unfair and a deliberate manipulation of truth to benefit one party.

And if there is a downturn after Biden takes office, of course the democrats will blame Trump.

When taxes were cut by Reagan, Kennedy and Trump, the economy soared. Just imagine what the economy would look like if not for the pandemic.

If Congress would cut unnecessary spending and reform entitlement programs, the economy would likely soar as never before.

Trump’s policies kept the economy going. If Biden succeeds in raising taxes and imposing unnecessary regulations, while increasing spending on dubious programs, Americans may have to get used to losing again.

dc

This president won the election. Probably the first serious enough fraud since RMN/JFK to throw a presidential election. Bad events happened over too many years after that election. The nation suffered big time. History repeats itself. It seems to get worse as it repeats. Few are taking the CCP & its evil goals serious. If it's not already too late it will be before the failed leaders & masses of so-called free people wake up. They evidently have a need to be controlled by dictators. It's ironic that many are ignorant enough to call those resisting communism exactly what the communists advocate. Twisted minds to put it lightly.

JusticeForAll

You are incorrect sir. Trump lost the election. By popular vote and by the electoral college votes. If you have any EVIDENCE otherwise, they are waiting...

dc

Has that woman accepted defeat yet?

JusticeForAll

If, if, if... The dogma of Trump. Getting so old.

mpjeep

Ah, the use of “civil” in civil war had nothing to do with Webster's definition as peaceable behavior, but refers to a war between citizens of the same country.

dc

EO in 2018 about election interference. Some news authorities investigating 500,000 ballots. If what?

dc

The news isn't the authorities. Can it be verified? If Hunter finally can who knows.

mpjeep

Nothing wrong with "If and Then" statements. Scientist and computer programmers use them all the time.

mpjeep

Yep, the Democrats have pulled off the largest known cases of rigged voting in history.

Even ole Joe said, “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

And, we all must admit, that mail-in ballots are more susceptible to fraud than in-person voting. That's the reason the left wanted to greatly expand mail-in balloting. We must change/fix the system.

The Constitution gives state legislatures the power over the times, methods, and procedures of elections. State legislatures are the ones who choose the electors that vote for president in each state. We need a one size fits all process for each state to follow the same rules and regulations.

And we need Voter ID laws!

drewski

One size fits all is taking infringing on states rights. What we really need is an adult president who faces reality, and a better educated electorate. People able to grasp the difference between proof in court and opinion and lies on twitter.

drewski

While a very few have posted " Trump won" or " dems stole election", most ppl can tell fantasy from reality. 1000 affidavits that prove voter fraud, the scant few brought into an actual court were dismissed outright as not credible. Now barr and the Supreme Court and ga gov. Are rino... in a country of 330 million likely thee are 2000 ppl who truely beleive they are Napoleon...does that make them Bonaparte? I think not.

dc

Major companies & one would guess many people are moving to TX from sunny CA & other leftist states. Don't mess with Texas. Seems many folks are moving here too from somewhere for what? Probably not because they heard we have a D governor. Seems they like it here in CC. Must be because we're fairly conservative.

dc

"Our political opponents are vicious, but they're also crazy", By Andrea Widburg, That's probably an accurate description.

dc

"Texas GOP chair calls for a 'union of states', and the left has a cow". By Monica Showalter. Locally the left only had a large calf. Well, it may have been a cow.

David Collins

Laws only work if honored and followed . Believe we have seen how that goes . This is nothing new , just more evident with instantaneous communication . We have sold out our soul to the dollar and it began way before 2020 . Just more “ in your face “ now that we are wired up . Hard to see the trees through the digital forest we have created and become absorbed in . It is a golden rule thing run amok . Voting should not ever be easy , the importance of the vote should make you think before you make your mark and pull the lever . As has been said , if it was easy then everyone would do it , and there lies the problem . Everyone can do it , 8 through 80 , blind crippled and crazy . As per intent .

dc

Anybody listened to Leigh Dundas' video about EO in 2018? Is this a hoax or will lots of us have a good day on 12/18?

dc

"SCOTUS opens up a constitutional can of worms". By Mark Landsbaum. Quoted, in part, "Who is Texas to tell Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin which portions of the Constitution they may or may not violate? Let that thought sink in."

dc

Go to economicwarroom.com & look for the one with Jovan Hutton Pulitzer. He's the bald guy with blue shirt. This guy holds lots of patents. Need science or not he's got it.

drewski

With the silly talk of tx and like minded states suggesting they could leave the union. Let me point out those red states esp the two with the highest trump voter counts, get way more from the federal govt, then they contribute. It is probably too late to return the La. purchase, and even if we could, TX for instance was 46% for Biden, don't want those folks left out in the intellectual cold with the cult member do we?

dc

"Illegal ballots can be quickly and scientifically identified". By John M. Contino. This includes the video mentioned earlier.

dc

It's less about becoming a separate country & more about an alliance of states willing to follow the Constitution with liberty & justice for all within such an alliance. Maybe after those states taken over by far left socialist fall completely apart at least something will remain recognizable.

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mpjeep

nvestor’s Business Daily - In a nutshell: (1) State officials need not enforce federal laws that the state has determined to be unconstitutional; nor may Congress mandate that states enact specific laws. But (2), states may not block federal authorities who attempt to enforce a federal law unless a court has held that the law is unconstitutional. And (3), individuals are not exempt from prosecution by the federal government just because the state where they reside has legalized an activity or pronounced that a federal law is unconstitutional; if convicted, individuals can attempt to vindicate their constitutional rights in court.

That’s why states can say Marijuana is illegal, even if Congress says it’s federally not. States are not required to enforce federal laws.

God Bless Texas!

dc

Read the forensics report on the computers in MI & it will confirm what Sidney has been telling us. Certification will have to be reversed. Think the Dominion system ain't crooked? Think again. Looks like President Trump gets another term & some state election officials where this system was used are in trouble.

drewski

The kraken drowned last week. Sidney is too nutty for even rudy and trump.

klacy

According to Wall Street Journal, voters in the moderate center of both parties, not those out on the wings, determined the outcome of the presidential election. That is a good thing indeed.

JusticeForAll

Our Constitution held. The rule of law held. Again, no evidence...bring it on if you have it...you will be a hero man.

mpjeep

The rule of law did not hold. Think about all the riots, thefts, burning buildings, etc.,...were those folks held accountable under the rule of law? I think not.

noitall

"Rule of Law" was smashed to pieces by the last six years of covert actions, impeachments, illegals running loose, spying, wire tapping. and now a cop-out by the SUPREMES. Only two thought there was evidence of fraud. What is your definition of evidence needed to only investigate. Now what? California is what it is because of a corrupt justice system

JusticeForAll

Out of context. There was not a single Supreme Court judge who "thought" there was fraud. "Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito said the court had no authority to refuse a case filed on its original docket, where one state files to sue another. But they said they would not have granted Texas any other relief and expressed no view on any of the issues raised in the lawsuit."

And no, "rule of law" stands firm in most instances. Have some courts pushed limits. Yes, corruption is alive and well. Welcome to human greed and stupidity.

dc

This is beyond laughable. JB said: "The margin we had in Michigan was 14 times the margin President Trump won that state by four years ago." FOURTEEN TIMES!!! (just a little emphasis added). Does ANYONE reading this believe that? Does even slow Joe believe that? He's actually shown by that statement just how FRAUDULENT this election was. Don't believe it was fraudulent? Review the audit done in Antrim County, Mi on Dominion machines. Like BO said, "leave it to Joe to screw things up", or words to that effect. JB goes on to say, "Our margin in Pennsylvsnia was nearly twice the size of the Trump margin four years ago." Does ANYONE believe that? The FRAUD is glaring & stunning. Too bad so-called judges in black robes are so blind to justice refusing to hear evidence of fraud. That little thing called intent. If that audit in Antrim County doesn't prove intent then nothing ever will. This is just the beginning for real patriots like Sidney Powell & Lin Wood in uncovering the massive fraud. If JB takes office he will definitely be a fraudulent president.

drewski

Again, allowing yourself to be infected with trumps histrionics is helping no one. If there is proof lets show it in court. Not podium barbie waving a sheet of paper screeching "this is significient", not less the lawyer telling the cult to stock up on second admt supplies. And certainly not trumps delusional and unhinged twitter feed. If here is proof of fraud great enough to effect election outcome, then show it in court, let it be examined and tested. Otherwise stop the crazy/ nonsense /conspiracy theories . It is pathetic.

drewski

The mi. Sec of state made a rebuttal to the famed audit in antrim co. Interested persons can find both statements online.

Don't hold your breath for the audit to do anything except provide further fantasy facts for those who need to beleive trump won.

dc

The heroes thus far who have broken through the FRAUD WALL are the MI citizen & his attorney who brought the case & the judge who allowed the machines to be audited & proved the fraud. Much more to come. If Sidney Powell & Lin Wood are nuts ask Sandman & many others what they think of them.

noitall

Doubt the insane liberals can run anything let alone the country. This is third world stuff. They will be in power long enough to screw things up and then fold as socialism always does. I for one am really disappointed in our justice system. The Democrats could never do this without the army of Obama appointed, liberal judges who legislate from the bench And now the Supreme Court is hiding from the issue. The election was corrupt. Are we blind? Visit Venezuela if you want a preview of what is coming. Last time I was there toilet paper was available only for the elites. We are getting there are we not

JusticeForAll

Did read the audit. Also, read the real story by the state of Michigan and Antrim county specifically addressing the "malicious and widespread disinformation campaign" of this presidential election.

This is one of many: https://www.dominionvoting.com/election-2020-setting-the-record-straight-antrim-county-michigan/

The great news is that there are real patriots are standing up. They are called the American people. They are not buying into conspiracy theories. They are vetting the information from credible sources. There methods are logical, methodical, and reasonable. There were no judges in local, state, or federal courts who did not follow the rule of law in this matter. They did their job to uphold the constitution. America at its best.

I have looked at every piece of "evidence" you guys threw out there. Not one article or any of the information presented could be validated or proven. That is why Trump lost. Facts. It's all about the facts.

mpjeep

What about a Yawn?

mpjeep

Or a cat purr

mpjeep

As human beings, we all strive to build a better world. But with all the riots in the past months, will Biden be able to stand up to these extreme actions that some have called for racial justice?

Demonstrators tore down statues and university administrators rushed to rename buildings that had recognized slave owners. Will this movement continue during the Biden presidency? Statues and monuments of Columbus, Churchill, Lincoln and Roosevelt have been boxed up and spray-painted.

This is a means of destruction that gives me great pause. There is a big difference with removing statues in response to community consensus than total out of control destruction.

Will Biden stand silent if a determined group continues to pull the country down?

JusticeForAll

Guess we will see. Looks like his first opportunity may be to stop the Trump fan club from further destruction of our nation if they choose to act on their "civil war" threats.

David Collins

What concerns me is that when these election folks supposedly did a forensic analysis on these machines , the term “ not enough to make a difference or change anything “ . That term , when applied to other forms of criminality is frightening indeed . Is that what our country has sunk to ?

dc

If an affiant testifies to their sworn affidavit can it be accepted as evidence? Were any of those affidavits that the Trump team offered accepted by the courts & the affiants asked to testify? Not sure but don't believe so. Many reasonable people have heard & seen enough to know what is going on & what has transpired with the mail-in ballots & the Dominion voting machines as well as other questionable occurrences . You can't fool all the people all the time. Believe the DNI will be reporting soon. We shall see.

drewski

Yes we will see ...joe biden inaugurated. And Donald Trump struggle to remain relevant to feed his narcissism..

dc

Try this one on: "interesting nuggets from the Antrim Dominion machine forensic analysis". By Andrea Widburg. How does it fit?

drewski

Best fit for ms widburg would be on a shelf between the " Bigfoot cookbook" and "grimms fairy tales".

dc

If it's JB it will be to feed his need for family enrichment & for the country a very radical left to it's great detriment.

drewski

I guess you spray painted over the right lens of your glasses so you can only see family enrichment to the left? lets see.... Ivanka patents in china instantly approved during state visit, ivankas role as "special advisor" , don jr 800k spent by gop on his 2 books, his girlfriend on GOP payroll for another 500 k, trumps fight the steal super pac that has spent 8 mil on his nonsensical stop the steal fantasy and collected over 200 mil, with no restrictions on how or where its spent. ( donors should have read the fine print) And then don the con himself 356 days at trump golf courses, 200 million on tax payers dime just in golf, The winter white house. the massive pay outs to trump and kushner properties from PPP program that was designed for small businesses

cha ching cha ching. I know, lets pretend none of that exists and focus on Hunter Biden. Thats what objective, even handed folk do.

dc

Patents & some others sounds like it actually took some work. Did they lie about it like JB?

dc

"2020: The Year of the Big Fraud". By Clarice Feldman. Quote, in part, "This was a year in which a number of frauds were exposed: Election fraud, media fraud and public health fraud, among them. Their exposure has stirred outrage and as the year ends, no relief seems in sight."

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drewski

Another fine article from the american thinker, so your response to trumps corruption and family enrichment (graft) is to excuse it, " it took work to get the GOP to spend a half million on my son's book" then pivot back to Biden, with yet another opinion piece from " The American Thinker"

Did you see Lou dobbs retract all his & his guests voter fraud allegations on fox? Guess he has joined the deep state with Barr and the supreme court, and any one else who have the wits to see trump for what he is... a has been con man.

dc

Your defense of Biden & the election is not at all impressive. Neither is your TDS. Did you see where Lin Wood is defending Sidney about a similar suit. He's not impressed with their threat & told them to file their suit. Maybe finally some discovery. Think they're worried?

drewski

Sidney and lin are jokes, you know who was impressed with threat of lawsuits? News max, oann, and fox... they all saw what was going to happen if they kept on with their lies and nonsense. They have all broadcast retractions. Pat Robertson on the 700 club said trump lives in an alternate reality, its not that he lies, he believes what he says( I doubt it) HE told trump and america " biden is president, time to move on"

So, either far right media, and pat Robertson have joined " the deep state" along with the Supreme court,Moscow mitch, republican govenors, the sec of state and ag. Or.. the election was fair and honest and trump is either deluded, or just running his last con. 60% of donations to " save America " go right in his pocket. I wonder what rational people think is more likely? Wanting desperately to beleive some wild conspiracy does not make it true.

dc

"In Our Hearts We Know Trump Won". By Alicia Colon. Quote, in part, "To many Americans, what is happening today smacks of high treason...". "They regard the definition of treason as giving aid and comfort to the enemy, but it is way more complicated than that." "... it is quite clear that we are battling a most cunning and malicious enemy --the Deep State. Our freedoms given to us in the Constitution have been targeted by an enemy within." The author says the first president she regarded as treasonous was BC for selling advanced missile technology to a familiar enemy for illegal campaign contributions. Does JB & son ring any bells?

Seemingly "no problem" for them, their supporters & those with TDS. Then there was BC's deliverance of supercomputers banned for security reasons. No problem right JB & supporters? Then Al heading up the boss's amnesty programs way back then allowing how many to vote in 1996? How long has this Deep State been advancing an agenda contrary free & fair elections? Russia with the GDP of CA is not our friend but is Red China & our politicians past & current more than just cozying up to them both? What did BO want Mev to tell Vlad? Is all this less of a concern than this president & his kids? What critical technology have they sold the country for? Yep, they're really dangerous to the Deep State mainly because they haven't & wouldn't do what the Ds have done & will continue doing because they can..

dc

"Will we go quietly into the night?". By Carol Brown. Quote, in part, "We're in dark and dangerous waters barreling toward an illegitimate presidency littered with Marxists "

JusticeForAll

dc, could you please share any information on Carol Brown? I have googled and there is no information on her credentials. Like to know that the source providing information is legit.

dc

Guess she might be Mrs. Brown's daughter. As HRC would say at this point what difference does it make?

dc

Joking aside you can find lots of her articles.

JusticeForAll

Finding her articles is easy. Finding out her background is what is not easy. I don't blindly trust sources when I can not verify their education and experience.

drewski

Suddenly I am getting notices from week old comments. 5 emails on same comment, not sure what it means... unless the paper farmed out tech support to USPS?

mpjeep

LOL......me too

dc

So you trust BC & HRC based on their background, education & experience? Sometimes being common sensual & wise trumps all three depending of course. You can trust JB how? About as far as you can throw him? You trust MSM, big tech, etc too?

JusticeForAll

...... As I have stated so many times before, I do not affiliate with any political party. I do not focus on conspiracy theories, but refute them with facts when they are presented on this forum. I am an American and I look at all sides of issues.

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dc

Beg to differ.

JusticeForAll

The good news is that our republic will survive Trump. Not sure his fan base will.

dc

Whatcha betting?

dc

"Trump tweets out a video that sums it all up so we know what we're fighting". By Andrea Widburg. To quote, in part, "One of the problems with what freedom-loving Americans face today is the immensity of what's happening. All the pieces are in place, but they got in position so incrementally, we never noticed. Still there they are: The left controls education, the media, corporate America, and large numbers of the most powerful politicians, including many Republicans." "Ultimately, the hallmark of modern leftism is the war with reality. In the December 2020 issue of Hillsdale College's . . . President, Larry P. Arnn, wrote an essay, comparing Orwell's 1984 with today's America . The analogies are chilling. The one is most damning is the left's insistence that we abandon reality."

dc

"Why Sidney Powell gets the Galileo treatment". By Eric Georgatos. Quote, in part, "Observers of human history might have to go back all the way to Galileo to find a ruling class as determined to cancel someone as much as today's is to cancel Sidney Powell in response to her single-minded devotion to bringing the truth of the full scale of the 2020 election fraud to light." "Common sense says election integrity is fundamental to the survival of democracy in any form, so if there are reasonable grounds for suspicion, why wouldn't serious adults want to turn over every rock to determine the truth. If the ruling class is so eager to pronounce Sidney Powell a lunatic fringe conspiracy theorist, why wouldn't they want the Dominion voting machines fully audited so they can prove once and for all that Powell is crazy and deserves to be mocked and ignored?"

We know why don't we? Too many from all sides involved in shenanigans that would prove earth-shaking. So, we commoners are left with the ruling class protecting the ruling class while nobody protects us. Too many commoners buy into the ruling class and their dictatorial hold on the masses.

drewski

"is the war with reality" yes there it is a war with reality. Serious adults already know that Joe Biden won the presidency by 7 million legal votes. Trump can't or won't face the facts and his base needs to believe. Nutty rationales and far fetched conspiracies are the stuff of supermarket tabloids, and wacko bloggers, Alex Jones says it so it must be true? he also was selling colloidal silver to cure covid too.

Here is a novel idea, Show a court some proof?

dc

If someone tries to show you something you refuse to look at then what? That's reality vs refusing to face reality. DUH!

dc

Hey, and that's not even a novel idea just reality. Again, DUH a thousand times. ....Orwell 1984 for sure.

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drewski

How nice to have an explanation for everything, fake news,deep state,big tech. Its always some external force, someone else to blame. I understand some ppl just can never admit they are wrong, or were conned. Maybe someone will come along with leftover asphalt on truck and do a magnificent driveway, for almost nothing?

mpjeep

Looking in the mirror

JusticeForAll

Anyone comparing the book 1984 with what is going on today is stretching a fictional story a bit much. Just states the obvious...politics are manipulated by those those in power. Truth and facts are based on evidence. Something Trump and his fan club have yet to provide. But there is evidence to prove every conspiracy theory spawned by the Trump fan club is false. BTW... did you know George Orwell was a democratic socialist?

dc

Journalist reporting on the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Virus Coverup is sentenced to 4 years. Let's hear what the Leftists including JB and clan have to say about her free speak. We know JB says China is not the problem rather it's our president. Seems his 80 million supporters if you believe that many supported him agree.

drewski

Wow what a shocking news flash free speech limited in China, who knew? No one thinks China is not a problem. Some folks, don't want to recognize what an equally serious problem Russia is..I wonder why that is?

JusticeForAll

Just in case anyone is interested...there is a site to help with conspiracy theory addiction. Google it.

dc

Looks like he knew his folks & their bible well. A real prophet.

dc

All the axis of evil are a serious problem but not equally so. Guess BO & HRC along with many other leftists didn't think Russia was when running against Mitt. Wonder why? Now, tell us all about the left's criticism of Red China. Oh, you can't because there hasn't been any. Beyond unforgivable.

drewski

..., " the left" that nebulous all inclusive boogieman. I can't worry about condemning the left for their lack of input on China. Shall I shout at a teen girl with a nose ring and blm t shirt in Walmart? Obama was pivoting dod focus from centcom to the pacific long before trump was on scene. Can you credibly deny that? I think not. What I will condemn in no uncertain terms is trumps absolute refusal to condemn Russia, in fact the removal of sanctions, and giving putin a free pass on EVERYTHING suggests putin has some hold on him,, either financial or otherwise.......

That is all I have to say about that.

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JusticeForAll

The biggest threat to this country is Trump. His negligence of imperative issues, such as national security and this pandemic, are unforgivable. His constant lies to his fan club are self serving and it is a shame they will follow him down to the detriment of this nation.

dc

One poll has him beating BO as most admired while another says he is Model for GOP. Sure you can't condemn the Left If you agree with it and/or a part of it. Duh. Another super agent man & wally world? Run out of Hitler? Yep, BO told Vlad no worries so he proceeds to do what? So, BO blows Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Libya & basically the world in general including the one he swore to protect. Investigations & TDS hatred spent how many millions & time trying to the destroy him & the country to accomplish what? National security & peace has been soooooo much better these past 4 years. No denying it but don't want it if Trump gets credit. Right, the CCP Virus worldwide spread & coverup with WHO backing led to what? Naturally, its worldwide spread wasn't their fault since TDS fools are certain they could make hay out of it by letting no crisis go to waste. Then massive election fraud was easy icing on the Left's cake.

dc

I apologize. Forgot ISIS & Iraq. Guess they're part of the world though aren't they? Like Gates said JB hasn't gotten anything right in over 40 years. One thing he has gotten right is remaining in the basement until his puppet master BO told him it was okay to come out. BO will decide when he wants KH to step to the podium. Then it's full steam ahead.

drewski

Ppl making multi paragraph rants about Obama, biden,the left,, whilst turning a blind eye to trumps corruption and incompetence have a skewed word view. Perhaps its indoctrination by right wing media? Perhaps people should try to read something other then what confirms their existing bias? Let me suggest defense weekly, a fairly middle of the road publication that focuses on military and corporate doings. Having a wide variety of information sources gives one the opportunity to present an informed opinion, rather then just endlessly parroting the same far right/ left talking points. How refreshing might that be?

JusticeForAll

Amen drewski!

dc

While you two are at it look up what Jovan Hutton Pulitzer had to say in GA today. You might actually learn something even though you might not like it.

drewski

Actually I did read that article about the audit, I also read about your much touted trump lawyer lin wood, and his accusations against chief justice roberts. What I find scariest of all is some percentage of the population, perhaps 25% actually beleive what ever lunacy is proffered in defense of djt. Cults are scary things, and the human psyche never ceases to amaze me.

JusticeForAll

You're kidding right? Looks like another social opportunity to feed his wealth and notoriety. But he says what you want to hear. Do some more research. In fact, PBS and Frontline have programs about that subject matter. Could be enlightening for some. Or not. Seems a hard habit to break.

dc

Since those ballots belong to the people & they are having to sue R's to get them some must be hiding something don't you think? Are you now supporting those elitist ruling class R's? Another Orwell reality it seems.

drewski

I say let him prove his allegations, until he does it is speculation not proof, and those two should not be confused.

dc

He's already proven it from a common sense point of view all things considered. An open WiFi connection "handshaking" (computer talk for two-way comms) with China? Listen to his latest with video of long election lines & music then the WiFi. Think he'd put his reputation on the line? Says somebody wants to sue him & the word is there's truck(s) loading ballots & shredding or words to that effect. He doesn't sound as if he's doing what he's doing for anything but peace of mind that since he's capable & has a need to protect the sanctity of the vote. Is he phony & all we've seen & heard coincidental? Can't be certain but the overall picture sure looks in his favor.

drewski

.....

Trump lost the popular vote and the Ec.

As pat Robertson said to trump and the nation.

TIME TO MOVE ON

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mpjeep

Agree, ski

dc

Because of those trying to hide the fraud the legal popular vote can't be determined at this time. Considering the amount of fraud and the published numbers of the winner vs loser in the swing or battleground states it's most likely the president won the EC.

dc

"Computer loses 4,500 votes". That's when things were supposed to be "normal" here with what we hoped & believed were honest people running the system. Multiply that by however many are in use under "normal" times & circumstances with honest people running things. Why did we go back to "paper"? If there's efforts & opportunity for fraudsters to work their shenanigans to not let a crisis go to waste as they're told you they would you don't believe them? They're not being the crooks they've told you they are but you don't believe them? Then a reputable computer audit outfit test a system in Antrim Co. MI & told you their findings & recommendations but you don't believe them? A man at the top of his trade & industry with patents & systems in use probably worldwide tells you he sees a problem & he can get to the bottom of it quickly but you don't believe him either? You believe everyone should just look the other way & accept the fraudulent results because Trump haters want him gone. Robertson is a pretty old white man. You don't trust elderly white men but you are willing to go along with Pat even with evidence of fraud. That's precious.

drewski

Repeating something over and over does not make it true. Trump is an infallible god like being, anyone who contributed to him is evil. Yea we get it.

drewski

Contradicts not contributes

Auto correct is the enema of the people.

dc

Your saying that over & over really is brilliant commentary. Maybe it will stick in 1984.

drewski

“There is none so blind as he who will not see,”

drewski

For all the bluster and wishful thinking about election conspiracies on this forum. I am just grateful that an adult will be sworn in as potus Jan 20th, and then president BIden can begin to repair the damage of the last 4 years. Hopefully the trump cult will find some new fad to latch on to.

dc

Check the mirror. Nothing there huh?

drewski

I am comfortable with what I see in the mirror, and what I say on this forum. Perhaps your family is all perfect? I do not hold hunter bidens faults against his father, nor hunter. He has had issues in past, may have in future. I am hoping for the best. Near as I can tell president elect Biden is not a bitter angry o.g. clinging to conspiracy theories, and ranting falsehoods every day. I like that about him. I also respect the fact that as VP he gaveled down dem objections to trumps win and certified the ec vote. That is what integrity looks like, something we haven't seen in a while.

dc

JB crime family adults? Fifty year old son is an adult? Missed out on that adult raising? Tell us all about the past 4 years of peace except at home because the juveniles have been in a tantrum for 4 years killing, breaking & burning funded by anti-American socialists/communists because they won't accept anything pro-American. China testing what they plan for you & your family's future. Welcome to your brave new world.

JusticeForAll

If the brave new world is intelligence-based, as the story goes, then Trump and his fan club will face, as Trump repeats...great, so great, really great, the best great challenges.

dc

But they won't be alone.

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