Emerald Isle, N.C.

TO THE EDITOR:

Here are some disturbing facts that influence the exaggerated covid statistics. All this is financed by the "Stimulus" money. Don't kill me. I am only the messenger.

The covid may kill but there is dishonest money to be made. Hospitals get paid more money if a patient is coded for the novel coronavirus, even if they haven’t been tested. Various well known fact-checking sites have confirmed this, including USA Today, Politifact, and Snopes. Hospitals get a 20% add-on for COVID-19-coded patients and roughly three times as much if such patients are placed on a ventilator .No autopsy is needed to verify - when health care intersects with dollars, it gets awkward.”

A COVID-19 admission to some hospitals will cost $13,000, and if a patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000. ; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [have] impact on what we do.” Increasing the number of COVID-19 procedures, testing, tracking, hospitalization creates an avenue for states to receive a larger portion of federal dollars.

And here is the rub. This is stealing. Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it’s a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they’re Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000, But if it’s COVID-19 pneumonia, then it’s $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000.

Fact-checker agrees as verified by USA TODAY through the American Hospital Association Special Bulletin. Politifact conceded, “Medicare is paying a 20% add-on to its regular hospital payments for the treatment of COVID-19 victims. That’s a result of a federal stimulus law.”"Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it’s considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases,”

ELTON MATHESON

(76) comments

Big Fat Drunk Republican

The CCNT should do the right thing and take this fan.

Time to stop lying about Covid. It’s not a hoax and hospitals are treating patients that come to them for help. If you are at the hospital be g treated for Covid, I doubt the hospital made it up, logic is easy to understand.

noitall

The goose has only so many golden eggs. Logic is unknown in government

David Collins

Exactly what I and a few others have been saying for many months . Three Bullets to the chest or a motorcycle wreck didn’t kill him . The Covid did .

drewski

Fact check.org suggests that is not the whole story, yes they get more from Medicare for covid care and more still if on a ventilator. Prime rib costs more then hamburger as well. Fact check states there is no evidence of fraud, hospitals are not going to kill the Golden goose of fed dollars if they are caught in fraudulent billing. Covid is quite real, ppl are dying and claims of widespread fraud, whether in hosp billing, or votes seems... rather...trumpish

noitall

Kaiser Healthcare has posted detail instructions on how to max payments.-and suggest flue could be covid

quicksand

Being that all this is part of the CARES Act, I encourage you to contact Representative Greg Murphy who voted for this on your behalf. He’s busy today though, trying to overturn the results of our election....Remember though, he is a medical doctor, so he’s more intelligent and more deserving than you.....

JusticeForAll

In the beginning of this pandemic there was confusion and misinformation about covid. There were cases were covid was listed as cause of death that might have been inaccurate, but they were by far the minority. Hospitals, like any business, are going to go by the guidelines set forth. Will they go as far as to commit obvious fraud. Doubt it. They pay out for all the "mistakes" their medical experts make every day and that is not a small number. If someone ends up in the hospital that had preexisting conditions, those preexisting conditions did not necessarily kill them, since they had been living with them, but when they got covid, they died. So that is what they have to put on the death certificate.

What is more concerning is that this is not going away and trying to ignore science or justify that this is not real is ridiculous. Yes, it is very "trumpish."

mpjeep

Just like Cooper....show me the data and science, please.

mpjeep

Yes Covid is real and so is greed.

The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium/add-on, for Medicare patients.

So how would anyone not believe that increasing the number of Covid patients would not create an avenue for more federal dollars.

Maybe not by doctors, but hospital administrators may pressure physicians to list every illness patients have including Covid to get more Medicare money.

It’s all about the Money.

drewski

Well if the drs are being pressured to call ingrown toenails covid, let's all grab our trump flags and storm the hospital?

David Collins

Of course it is about the money , always has been . When has it not ?

County hospitals that are required by law to take , admit and treat ALL who darken their door have to do just that . Have seen it , been there and watched it happen . So do not tell me it does not happen . ALL means just that ! 8 through 80 , blind crippled or crazy , citizen or non-citizen alike regardless of their ability to pay . It is written on a sign attached to the wall and I have passed by it a few times . Check it out ! Sadly , someone must pay the freight in order for the facility to remain open . Just a fact of life . That is why you get bill cramming and creative certifications . Insurance companies know well how the game is played , hence the agreed upon remittances . Same goes for any government payments . Anything they can squeeze out of the patient is gravy . Plenty never pay a dime and that is that so get real .

Am already entering that rabbit hole yet one more time and it has more twists and turns than a first time tryst . Hopefully a happy ending .

drewski

Best wishes on yet another trip down that rabbit hole. I will mention you in my prayers.

DeadBolt

Over a quarter million babies were killed in medical facilities around the US last year , and roughly 42 million WORLDWIDE, and not 1 article or mention from all you fine upstanding masked folks, hmmmmmm. OK, what a scamdmic. I THINK I'LL EXERCISE MY OWN MORALE JUDGMENT , NOT SOME REFLECTED HERE.

drewski

While you are entitled to your opinion, and control over your own body, perhaps you could leave this decision to the women involved and their doctors? Put another way, if you are morally opposed to abortion, don't get one. Is that possible in your " MORALE JUDGEMENT"?

DeadBolt

Sure , and share it with all! [wink]

David Collins

Hummmmm , last time I checked , aborting the unborn is a voluntary thing . The Covid is not or at least I did not know you could sign up for it or decline . So your point is ? Selective outrage ?

JohnnyR

I'm sure all the outrage over abortion is followed up with volunteering to adopt or be a foster parent to all the unwanted children?

I have to believe these strongly anti-abortion folks that want every unwanted pregnancy to go full term are prepared to support all these unwanted children? And by support, I don't mean just from conceivement to birth, I also mean for the following 18 years to properly take care of all these unwanted children.

Right? We aren't just MORALLY OUTRAGED and are prepared to actually do something about that?

Here's an idea, why don't some of these morally outraged folks that want to dictate what a woman does with her body actually share how they help with all the unwanted children?

DeadBolt

Well, glad you asked there 'jonny' , i have been sharin statistics for quite some time bud! How bout this.. at this point , equal field , start etc, you and me are 25% more likely to die from ABORTION then covid!?!(ISN'T THAT AMAZING?) Now, i do not want to shed false light on the '19' , but...., given that all these untimely BABY MURDERS are going on in Yours, and MY country, it would seem that we may be able to stop them, right?!1? Heck, i'm sure we agree on GETTING SOME PAYBACK FROM CHINA JOE / OOPS, SORRY, CHINA FOR DEVELOPING THIS BRUTAL DISEASE YOU FOLKS ARE ON ABOUT, CORRECT? If so, please , by all means, lets all SMACK A COMMIE IN THE MOUTH, and collect OUR FAIR SHARE! Remember, NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE, EVER! [whistling]

DeadBolt

Point being 'covid' is the least of the problems facing this Country. Lastly, to 'follow the money'.... well, looks like the taxpayers are financing both of these activities and CHINA is to blame for at least one, according to the whole world. China Virus....... coming to a town , at a time when the DADDY GOVERNMENT tells you its there! SCAMDEMIC.

JohnnyR

No DeadBolt, the point is you being MORALLY OUTRAGED at all the abortions. Please tell us all your adoption stories to take care of these unwanted pregnancies.

Surely since you're prepared to dictate to all the young women across the world what to do with their bodies, you must be prepared to support the children from all the unwanted pregnancies that absolutely must be taken to full term?

DeadBolt

Well, jonny, one thing is for SURE..... the topic i brought up starts with a sound education on the subject! (oh, btw, i am pro life, however, my comparison is towards the 'money' at this point as the article states, and a small comparison of just how much the useless daddy government just jacked the COUNTRY for over a small imperfect advanced flu season) Now, the biggest difference from the money aspect , is that CHINA OWES THE WORLD, according to , well, EVERYBODY, for this disaster, so we need to collect! The murder of America's most prized possession's by our OWN citizens is another thing entirely on US, as a country. Heck, if we spent that much on keeping folks alive, i'd be amazed. Now, lets go get our CAPITAL that CHINA OWES US!

David Collins

You go , JohnnyR . You are dead on and I salute you . Seriously !

Years ago , in another life . I ended up in Wilmington NC , attending a Situationally focused English class at Cape Fear Tech on front street . The instructor was one John Pat Harmon from. chapel hill . Probably dead now . He drove a 1967 Pontiac GTO with big road lights and a license plate that read “ B-HAPPY “ . He would challenge us with hot button issues and then sit back and let us dig our own graves . It was great , no holds barred and no one judged right or wrong . Totally open discussion with amazing eye opening results . Totally male class , by the way . No topic was out of bounds . Learned oh so much and carried it with me ever since . He only lasted a couple of years before returning to his mothership , never to be heard from again . B-Happy . How elusive that is now and the way you explained yourself brought back pleasant memories . Thanks , my friend , thanks .

mpjeep

Actually you are way off base, johnnyr. Abortions used to be in first trimester....now it's up to birth. That's murder my friend.

DeadBolt

Now, as to the 'healthcare' described in the article, well, it seems like typical practices as of late, and is not surprising to me. Lets see , hmmm, um roughly over 240 years ago founded and coming up, a determined effort to undermine and ruin and collapse an entire country, i'd say less then 4 years. So, if you folks all agree that so called health-pay is way too high, etc, just wait for the collapse of an entire economy. (something we have seen in other commie countries that will never work, and fails everytime, no matter the so called genius whom its born to next! ) Just remember folks 'stealing' is not nice, AND A HUGE MAJORITY WILL PERMIT IT. [yawn]

JohnnyR

So it's ok for the woman to choose to get one up to the first trimester?

DeadBolt

Well, jonny, IMO, its never ok to commit murder on someone else's life, however, i'm not arguing the merit's against it, even though i find it repugnant. REALITY tells us all here , in this world, that the numbers of the 'KUNG-FLU' are a bit , how shall we say, underwhelming! Whereas , i'm sure you'll agree with me , the murder for over 12 years of more the a quarter million babies per year in the US, is a FAR GREATER PANDEMIC! Come on now there, you cannot ARGUE with MATH? In fact, this little CHINA cold, well, i'd bet it will never catch the 'MURDERS'! Rest assured though , jonny, the shameless people who committed these atrocities upon the general public, well, lets just say THEY WERE WEARING A MASK, hmmmmmmmmm thats strange. TC, [wink]

David Collins

As per current laws . Laws that can be changed .

Abortion , another endlessly discussed subject with no end in sight . A perpetual motion machine if you will . Can we cease and desist here . Nothing to be gained . You have believers and nonbelievers . Let’s let it go at that . Far bigger fish to fry right now .

JusticeForAll

Very few late term abortions are done. The majority being done because of a health threat to the mother or the fetus has died. This was hype by Trump and his fan club to try and overturn Roe vs. Wade. Exaggeration of information and lying were the only ways this administration could keep a fan base. And greed fueled it. That is their legacy.

morehood city res

not all state abortion regs are the same. instances where life of the mother is at risk if the pregnancy continues are the usual reason one may occur later in the pregnancy. if some of you would get your info from other sources instead of parlor q anon and trump you may understand it better

dc

Some probably aren't capable in more ways than one to care for offspring. Who decides that and what are you going to do about it? Yes, it's up to the woman in more ways than one and it's a decision made easy compared to another era. Many years ago and before abortion was culturally, moraliy and legally okay many children were born into families who really couldn't afford them by today's standards. Who would have fought our wars without these "poor" boys "who should have been aborted" by some people's ideology? Today it's okay in fact it's required by our socialist left to provide support from conception to death for those having babies as well as their babies. Which of these babies would you keep and which would you throw away? The socialist left can and will help you with that too.

JohnnyR

So we should force all pregnancies go full term so we can have plenty of soldiers in case of war? Wow, ok.

So who supports those children till they're ready for the Army? I'm guessing they're on their own till they're ready to fight like the "good ol' days", right?

DeadBolt

Wow, we on to what to do after all abortions are ended already? Quick leap there , well, considering i have no false info that anything will reverse itself, but anyway. Towards the point , i'm of the opinion (meaning me, not everyone), that PRIOR TO MURDER, (which is how I SEE IT) . If anything the MURDER has eliminated any costs except the one the facility charges , which in alot of cases is taxpayer funded under some false guise. Personally, the life lost, IMO, would probably have been a very productive member of society and contributed. [whistling]

dc

Don't get upset. If you think that all or most abortions are only for the life of the mother or the baby is already dead so be it. If y'all can live with it others can live without them. Your choice. Just stating facts about what the country would have done without those big family country poor boys during especially WWI & II. Guess we would have made it without Sgt. York & Audie Murphy but just think more metropolitan & richer kids might have had to take up the slack. Listen, the futuristic soldier no matter what their background may make abortion no problem. Also, those going in harm's way or just making the military their profession will probably have a different make-up reflecting society in general. In fact it already does & will be more so going forward, So, we can all relax & get back to our white privilege.

David Collins

Would give new meaning to the term “ war babies “ . Might even replace the draft . You know , we might be on to something .

JohnnyR

No, I'm pretty sure most abortions are NOT performed to save the life of the mother or the baby is already dead. Pretty sure most abortions are because a young woman gets pregnant and is not ready for it.

You see, it's the women who are affected by this, not any of you old men.

So none of you have any right to dictate what she does if she becomes pregnant, she has to right to do whatever she wants with her body.

So to recap, if you are not pregnant, you have no say in the matter.

DeadBolt

Yes, we forgot, WOMEN are asexual . (thats a biological term , unaffected by cancel culture, and often left out of A FACTUAL CONVERSATION) So, anyway, when are WE GOING AFTER CHINA, the perp of the KUNG - FLU! (you guys and gals do not forget to sound the alarm when the boat leaves for the attack!)

drewski

Just curious, what say should the father have?

David Collins

But they can and will JohnnyR , with the flag of Morality at their side .

DeadBolt

Its not that hard to defend my position of 'NO, I DO NOT AGREE WITH MURDERING BABIES'

JusticeForAll

Talking about late term abortions JohnnyR. The others are not. It is a choice.

DeadBolt

I, personally do not support MURDER at any age.

JohnnyR

Watching ABC's "this week" this morning about that traitor Trump instigating an attack against our government last week....I think that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) has a bright future in politics. Have a feeling she'll not only be the first elected female president, but the first president with a hyphened name!

DeadBolt

HAHAHAHAHA , WELL, its official, shes a nutter. (and a commie to boot, not hard to spot)

mpjeep

ABC News Political Director Rick Klein called for the “cleansing” of Trump supporters.

New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s request for GOP punishment by touting the “Trump Accountability Project,” creating lists “to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held responsible for what they did.”

The calls for widespread punishment have only undermined Biden’s claim of promoting unity, exposing his lip service to a deeply divided nation.

The nation is deeply divided, and its problems are only getting worse. But rooting out political opponents as those who need to be “cleansed” will only bring about future violence, and it won’t go away with Trump.

drewski

" exposing his lip service"

Lord! What president elect biden has said about impeachment is a matter of public record, When did Biden become responsible for what AOC or others say or said?

You got 3 different fish on a stringer, a mullet a trout and a blue, you can point to the stringer all day and say " this is a lobster" most people walking by think

" hmm, not a lobster... poor guy"

David Collins

Perhaps Our friends in China or NOKO have some extra room is their famous re-education camps available for renting to us . Those needing cleansing would then have a place to go .

mpjeep

To be really effective there needs to be 50 individual rallies in 50 individual State capitals to not only make the needed changes, but to also make sure the laws are respected and enforced.

As you all know, elections are done at the local level, so that’s where the pressure needs to be applied. Local politicians have the power to change and enforce.

We need to have marches on the State Capitals demanding election reform and enforcement of election laws. If the ‘rats want to use the courts to defeat voter ID laws, which need to be passed and enforced, then we should be pushing for State Constitutional amendments to make them law.

I’m not saying the State Capital buildings should be invaded like what happened in DC, but if they were surrounded by huge vocal groups of protesters, making their positions known to these local lawmakers, as they are coming and going, maybe We the People will be heard.

And again I’m not saying to get physical, but get in their ear.

Remember, the one thing these elected representatives fear most is the voting public.

mpjeep

I posted my comments before reading this.....

The FBI is warning of plans for armed protests at all 50 state capitals and in Washington in the days leading up to President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration, stoking fears of more bloodshed after last week's deadly siege at the U.S. Capitol

dc

Exactly jeep but the audits on this election needs to continue and results publish for all to see.

JohnnyR

Agree with the auditing of the results and making them public. But will you accept them if they don't match your preconceived expectations?

dc

Of course not. Did you & your ilk accept 2016? Joking except y'all weren't joking were you? Absolutely, because R's can cheat using the same fraudulent methods D's can and have big time in this election. It will show the president won the EC.

David Collins

The problem with any attempt to audit is it is just too late . Any form of forensic evidence has long been scrubbed and any paper trail hopelessly jumbled and missing . As usual for government it moves at a snail’s pace so forget that .

Hate to say it but one side outmaneuvered the other . Lick your wounds and give it a try next time . This constant banter and name calling is pointless . If we get stuck with a horrible administration it will soon become apparent and everything will start all over again . You never know . We may actually get a cabinet member or two worth a darn . Stranger things have been known to happen . We certainly got shortchanged the last time around .

dc

Nope, the people need to know no matter the results. Too much at stake now and in the future.

dc

Bottom line is JB legit or not?

dc

"Only prosecutions can ensure future election integrity". By Daniel G. Jones. Quote, in part, "Nations in Action, a good-government advocacy group, reports that a prosecutor in Naples is working on a case involving hacking of the U.S, presidential election by a foreign power."

morehood city res

hey what's ya'lls conspiracy theory on why sometimes it's raining but the sun is shining at the same time? asking for a friend

drewski

You know very well, its a dem plot to steal the rain.

David Collins

Well , dc , ya better find out at lightning speed because as soon as Biden says I do , all investigations are off . All prosecutorial actions cease , Hunter Biden gets a get out of jail free card and slo Joe gets to take a nap . Elections have consequences , every time .

noitall

Trump should declassify and watch the fur fly, then buy CNN and revive his Apprentice series using CNN staff for the talent pool. Ratings would be very, very good.

drewski

I think you overestimate trumps wealth, if you have a million dollar house and a million two mortgage what do you really own?

dc

Y'all secretly adore Don. You just can't tell your far left friends. That's okay he'll get over you.

JohnnyR

I do like Don, look at all the laughs he's provided over the past 4 years. He's a living, breathing comedy skit.

I do worry about him having access to the nuke button though.

mpjeep

Pelosi said that the rioters who took part in the breach of the U.S. Capitol chose their "whiteness" over democracy.

dc

Yep, Orwellian for sure. First president with no new wars since Carter, got us out of Syria, peace in ME and worry about nuclear button. Makes sense to any TDS sufferer.

drewski

So abandoning our allies the kurds( yet again) and turning syria over to putin and Assad is somehow a plus in trump world, I guess hamas and the plo and Saudi Arabia dident get the memo about peace in middle east?, I suspect your rose colored glasses have more then a lil orange tint?

Trump world, where reality is what ever widdle Donnie said, until he changes it. Perhaps you trumpians could come up with some special salute for him clenched fist over your heart perhaps?

dc

Don't know if it's comical or downright amazing. There was the president yesterday standing by that beautiful wall & conversing with those LE folks then as confident as ever spoke about last week & the wall. This after driving some of you & your Marxist comrades looney for 4 years. After enduring a coup. After accomplishing more than any president since Lincoln. After leaving a great life to greatly improve the country that he inherited from a lot of garbage. Yep, amazing beyond belief. Ready to go back to the garbage?

drewski

AH yes " garbage" easily as classy as a trump speech, and about as valid. The irony that you have been stuck on " orwell" is that you beleive what you have been told by the head of govt, and his media propagandists. Tell us more about the majestic orange god, standing boldy by his big beautiful wall.. then say Orwell again. It gives me paroxyms of mirth.

JohnnyR

"First president with no new wars since Carter"

Are you saying the Don is a better president than Reagan? Isn't that considered blasphemy to the Ultra Right?

Be careful what you say dc, you don't want to get kicked out the club.

DeadBolt

WAITING FOR THE WAR WITH CHINA! They owe the USA! <------------ KUNG FLU kicked in here.....[beam] Don't know about 'karate' but we do know about KRAZY .

drewski

Don't know about 'karate' but we do know about KRAZY .

Don't be so hard on yourself, perhaps just misguided?

dc

Yep, better than RR & that's saying a lot.

mpjeep

Probably gonna buy a new gun with my next stimulus check, and may send a picture of it to Pelosi, along with a thank you card, of course.

drewski

I triple dog dare you to send a gun pic to nancy( an 80 yr old woman) don't forget your return address.

DeadBolt

Any bids on that podium of hers on ebay???????? hahahahaahah

DeadBolt

CHINA VIRUS..... [scared]

David Collins

Actually that lectern , not podium , belongs to we citizens .

Better to buy ammunition , mp . There are guns a plenty for sale , ammunition , not so much . Cheaper than dirt .com .

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