Beaufort, N.C.

Aug. 9, 2018

TO THE EDITOR:

I am so excited to be the principal of MaST Early College High School, the first early college model in Carteret County. The positive response from our community has been overwhelming. We are here to serve the students of Carteret County Public Schools as the fourth high school in our system. This is a unique opportunity for our students and we thank the Carteret County Board of Education and Carteret Community College. We truly appreciate the funding support from the Carteret County Commissioners.

MaST Early College High School is an innovative high school where students can begin to earn college credit as a 9th grader while meeting the requirements for a N.C. High School Diploma. We are focused on Marine Science and Technologies, but it is very individualized for all pathways that the community college offers.

Students that attend MaST submit an application, followed by a rubric and then a lottery for admission. The population is diverse and offers kids the opportunity to be certified in a trade for career bound, earn an associates degree or fast track their way to a 4-year college or university. We are focused on “homegrown” opportunities so that our students will give back to our community once they complete their career choice.

Our mission for MaST is as follows: Career Bound. College Ready. Student Centered. Our vision is as follows: MaST Early College High School believes in creating a rigorous academic environment where everyone belongs and will succeed, by integrating the high school and community college experience.

Early College High School students have unique and difference opportunities as opposed to those in traditional high schools. As an Early College High School 9th grader, a student can take any course offered by the Community College. If that same student remained in the traditional high school, college courses are not offered until their 11th grade year, and then those are limited with the students needing to meet specific criteria.

We invite the public to attend our Open House on Monday, Aug. 13th, from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. as we welcome the Class of 2022. Our first classes will take place on Aug. 15th, and we are ready to serve. We want to build partnerships with our local business owners and organizations. We will also have the opportunity to take “mini-field” trips during this time to expose our students to the wide array of opportunities available in our county.

If you are interested in partnering with us, we have every Friday afternoon from 1:15 to 2:30 available.  Feel free to call me at 252-222-7990.

Let’s go Beacons!

DeANNE ROSEN

(11) comments

dc

Why should the traditional HS 9th graders be denied the same opportunities described in the 4th paragraph from the bottom?

TravisDay

I agree dc, that traditional High School 9th graders should not be denied opportunities offered to MaST students. I keep hearing and reading about the supposed unique advantage that only MaST students can take college courses in the 9th grade. But information I have gathered appears to contradict some of this.

CCC’s “Career and College Promise Admissions Requirement” webpage specifically outlines options and requirements for 9th and 10th graders. Specific academic criteria exists for these underclassmen. (After all, these are 14-year old kids who could be taking college classes with much older classmates.) So traditional high school 9th and 10th grade students appear to be held to a higher academic standard than MaST students with regards to being able to take courses at CCC. I would think that MaST students should have similar academic requirements before being able to take college courses.

Here’s a MaST advantage you don’t hear much about…much smaller class sizes. I am sure we all would love for our traditional high school students to have better teacher/student ratios. Here’s the paradox. Most people (outside of MaST parents) don’t want a select number of MaST students to enjoy advantages over our traditional high school students. But if there are no significant advantages in attending MaST, why would we allocate resources and money for the new school? If there are significant advantages to MaST students, then the cost of providing these advantages to a select group of students must be weighed against the many other needs in our school system.

Below are some of my questions about MaST and answers provided by Heather Dietzler, Chief Academic Officer of Carteret County Schools:

Q: So students at our normal high schools can take all of the same courses (vocational and otherwise...through the College Transfer pathway or the CTE pathway) that MaST students can?
A: If students meet the college requirements then yes they can. Only difference would be grade level requirement for CCP.

Q: Can students in the CTE pathway take any CCC courses for credit in the 9th grade?
A: Yes, there are 5 program areas... welding, aquaculture, marine propulsion, boat manufacturing and new heavy equipment marine diesel. The 9th graders have a more rigorous requirement, see link http://www.carteret.edu/programs/career-college-promise/ccp-admission-requirements

Q: Are there particular CCC classes that MaST students might be taking in the 9th grade? (Will our normal high school students will be at a disadvantage because they cannot take classes for college credit in the 9th grade?)
A: Students will take general college courses their first year Health (HS freshman take), PE (HS freshman take), ACA- Critical Thinking, Computer Information Systems.

Q: How many total classes-for-college credit are students allowed to count towards college credit? Is there a big advantage for MaST students being able to start getting college credits in the 9th grade? Or is this not really an advantage because there is a cap on the number of classes that can count for credit in UNC system colleges?
A: There is not an advantage since there are required High School Courses that all students must take regardless of there setting. In order to get those in and their pathway courses time is a limitation.

Q: If I understand correctly, students in our normal high schools will be able to earn as many college credits as MaST students, and they are also able to receive an associate’s degree, just like MaST students...right?
A: yes

Q: Do our normal high school students have an advantage (over MaST students) of being able to take AP courses? (Can MaST students also take AP courses at MaST?)
A: All students are able to take AP Exams for college credit

Q: From what I understand, private colleges and out-of-state colleges may not accept credit for some CCC and MaST classes. But they normally accept accredited AP classes for which students must take an EOC exam... Is this accurate?
A: From what I understand each college has different criteria of what they will accept or not. This is a reason that students need to have some idea of if they want to attend a college/university and perhaps which ones they want to apply to.

Q: For this reason, are students who intend to enroll in more competitive universities or those outside of NC encouraged to enroll in normal high school as opposed to MaST?
A: At this point I am not aware of any student being encouraged to attend either their high school or MaST, all students are being provided information about both opportunities. It is our hope that once we get our CCP liaison position and the middle school CDC position fully in place that this dissemination of information will happen in a more thorough manner.

Q: What type of students who are being encouraged/advised to attend MaST?
A: Honestly I don't believe there was a type targeted.

Q: Are you able to provide some info on the students who are enrolled this first year? (How many from each home high school and their intended plan/track/goal...i.e. vocational versus 4-year college?)
A: I would happy to share this information as soon as it is finalized.

Q: What are the reasons that these students enrolled in MaST if they can get all of the same benefits in the normal high school setting?
A: Students were asked this on their applications so I can share this too as soon as we have a final enrollment

DeadBolt

Travis, STOP.................

FULL STOP..........

You should not have to defend your position to an 'un qualified' person.

Save your FACTS FOR A REAL DEBATE on this subject, arguing with ideologists on LIFE is like explaining to a monkey how to use a gun, it feels good in the moment, but, run like the wind when you give them one.

dc

Thank you Travis. Way back in my HS days Industrial Cooperative Training (ICT) gave a few students the opportunity to have a paying job working part of the school day while earning HS credits. It had its advantages and disadvantages. The advantage was to give what one might consider poor students an incentive to stay in school, earn their HS diploma, and possibly a future trade. The primary disadvantage I believe was those working students missed out on taking certain courses primarily more advanced math and science which precluded entrance directly out of HS into four-year colleges in those days. Non-college bound students who were interested in advancing their education and/or pursing a trade attendeded an Industrial Education Center (IEC) I believe was the original name before community colleges. It seems the early college HS doesn't necessarily apply to poor students but could encourage its students to pursue a four-year degree or trade not requiring a four-year degree. Nothing wrong with either but how many programs do we need and how about funding? I believe you have already pointed this out.

dc

Doesn't the law demand a "basic free education for everyone"? Would it be a stretch to describe the early HS concept as an "advanced education for a select few"?

dc

Add the word "free" between the words "advanced" and "education".

dc

Add the word "college" between the words "early" and "HS".

DeadBolt

Caution, there is no 'FREE' school anywhere. (that's the fallacy)

Suppose some folks have a hard time understanding this concept, and for the life of me its common sense to a much larger majority.

Wonder if Schools in general have any part to play in this conundrum?

Boy, how things have changed, we were getting decent products decades ago vs now, IMO. (products that understand basic math, etc).

Anyhoo........ Still agree w/ya there Travis, good points all around.

Gosh do i miss my teachers, sincerely . (sorry to say they were aged when they were in tenure, so most, if not all have departed , and were a HUGE ASSET to this County. )

In hindsight i apologize to them, for being a disruptive chap, but they got their knocks in. [smile] (which was usually a huge paddle)

dc

Believe state law uses terminology like "free public schools" and "free of tuition" and more specifically for those "under 21 who have not completed HS", or words to that effect. Don't know of anything beyond that as being "free" by law although wouldn't bet on it nowadays. We know who provides the "free" that's required of local and state authorities. Question then is: Are those who provide the "free" noted above required to provide anything "free" beyond a "basic" (i.e. through HS) education? Shouldn't we thank those generous citizens of our state who provide us a "tuition free through HS" education and then provide for ourselves beyond that? When does HS end and college or anything beyond HS begin?

DeadBolt

Either way, there was only one or two ways this horrible atrocity could have went, and it followed the way of socialism, as always when people affect 'TRADE' of commodities for others.

Now, we have a huge population of people whom have been through the 'free' system, expecting to earn tons of money based on diploma / degree, etc, etc, with no 'TRADE SKILL' to get them by until they may actually use the mentioned document at a point when its needed. (and as i have recently looked, at university level degree's, most of them are in humanities studies, which is basically a useless field).

Education is a commodity , and should be treated as such, how far an individual should go is up to them, however, i would like to caution parents before the loans go through, and several thousand dollars are spent, etc, etc, research these schools your children are attending beyond HS . Youtube is a great tool if you can watch some of the professors in action.

Oh, and before you send your most precious commodity out into the world, you had better at the very least EXPLAIN how basic living expenses are paid, etc, etc, because it seems to me people have forgotten that cars/ mortgages / lights/ internet/ water/ phone/ clothes etc, etc, etc, are all NOT FREE. (NEITHER WAS THEIR EDUCATION, thus eliminating the fallacy).

HAHAHAHAH sure would be nice to have a whole country of 'astronaught's! We'd be broke, but wow, wouldn't they be great?!? (and hungry too). [beam]

DeadBolt

Oh, almost forgot, congratulations on being the 'HEAD' GAL for this program.

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